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		<title>Comment on Effects of 10% ethanol by Scottar</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/06/08/effects-of-10-ethanol/#comment-65</link>
		<author>Scottar</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that most of the US is not suitable for growing sugarcane because it requires a tropical climate. It is also hard on the soil and requires intensive fertilization. So unless some large tropical country becomes a state, ethanol from sugarcane would have to be imported. 

Currently if all of the cultivable land in the US was dedicated to ethanol it would only replace about 25~30%of current gasoline usage. Biofuel independence is still a long way off and needs more research and development. Electric and compressed driven vehicles look to be a better option. And there is another possibility on the horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that most of the US is not suitable for growing sugarcane because it requires a tropical climate. It is also hard on the soil and requires intensive fertilization. So unless some large tropical country becomes a state, ethanol from sugarcane would have to be imported. </p>
<p>Currently if all of the cultivable land in the US was dedicated to ethanol it would only replace about 25~30%of current gasoline usage. Biofuel independence is still a long way off and needs more research and development. Electric and compressed driven vehicles look to be a better option. And there is another possibility on the horizon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethanol&#8217;s Corrosive Little Secret by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/07/ethanols-corrosive-little-secret/#comment-64</link>
		<author>Steve</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/07/ethanols-corrosive-little-secret/#comment-64</guid>
		<description>I have only just started looking into this ethanol debate, and it is for person reasons. I have developed car problems, and ended up sitting on the side of the road, and it took me over a week of not being able to drive more than 3 miles at a time to find out the cause. I researched the factory tech bullitins, and found one that listed what my car was doing, and it said to test the gas for over 10% ethanol, and then I found out the station I was buying my gas at switched to a 15% ethanol blend just prior to my car problems. All the things my car is doing I have found listed as side effects of Ethanol, that most of which are denied by those supporting it's use. I didn't do a scientfic test, I just filled up at the wrong station and messed up my car that I am still trying to get fixed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only just started looking into this ethanol debate, and it is for person reasons. I have developed car problems, and ended up sitting on the side of the road, and it took me over a week of not being able to drive more than 3 miles at a time to find out the cause. I researched the factory tech bullitins, and found one that listed what my car was doing, and it said to test the gas for over 10% ethanol, and then I found out the station I was buying my gas at switched to a 15% ethanol blend just prior to my car problems. All the things my car is doing I have found listed as side effects of Ethanol, that most of which are denied by those supporting it&#8217;s use. I didn&#8217;t do a scientfic test, I just filled up at the wrong station and messed up my car that I am still trying to get fixed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bio-fuel is nothing but a petro-base fuel additive by Mat</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/11/23/bio-fuel-is-nothing-but-a-petro-base-fuel-additive/#comment-55</link>
		<author>Mat</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/11/23/bio-fuel-is-nothing-but-a-petro-base-fuel-additive/#comment-55</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, the statements made on bio-diesel are false.  Yes, it is true that without alterations in a diesel engine, B100 cannot be used.  However, with only slight alterations made to any diesel engine (the tubes should be replaced with an alternative to the normal rubber), 100% Bio-diesel can be used as fuel for your diesel car.  Also, E85 ethanol contains 85% bio-fuel, which would ,make the 15% gas an additive, not the other way around.  I would also like to address that  the inorganic petrol-base (ethanol) you speak of IS completely organic, made usually from fermenting corn.  Even so, I do agree that bio-fuels are only a temporary solution, as they do not offer too much of a decrease in emissions and in the future I hope that Hydrogen Fuel Cell vehicles will be the norm, as there are Zero emissions.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In addition, I would like to mention that our  2003 Dodge Grand Caravan is an FFV, as are all 3.3L V6 models of that year.  This means that it is flexible fuel vehicle that can run on E85 Ethanol. I hope to see E85 in our area soon.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the statements made on bio-diesel are false.  Yes, it is true that without alterations in a diesel engine, B100 cannot be used.  However, with only slight alterations made to any diesel engine (the tubes should be replaced with an alternative to the normal rubber), 100% Bio-diesel can be used as fuel for your diesel car.  Also, E85 ethanol contains 85% bio-fuel, which would ,make the 15% gas an additive, not the other way around.  I would also like to address that  the inorganic petrol-base (ethanol) you speak of IS completely organic, made usually from fermenting corn.  Even so, I do agree that bio-fuels are only a temporary solution, as they do not offer too much of a decrease in emissions and in the future I hope that Hydrogen Fuel Cell vehicles will be the norm, as there are Zero emissions.  </p>
<p>In addition, I would like to mention that our  2003 Dodge Grand Caravan is an FFV, as are all 3.3L V6 models of that year.  This means that it is flexible fuel vehicle that can run on E85 Ethanol. I hope to see E85 in our area soon.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethanol&#8217;s Corrosive Little Secret by Guest2</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/07/ethanols-corrosive-little-secret/#comment-54</link>
		<author>Guest2</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/07/ethanols-corrosive-little-secret/#comment-54</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a new energy technology that doesn't need or use ethanol, therefore, no need to worry about ethanol pros or cons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This new energy technology has been proven by NASA but the DOE refuses to fund or conduct further research. It is called Cavitation Ignition Bubble Combustion (CIBC) or burning a small air bubble less than the size of a "BB."&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This new innovative energy technology is cheap, plentiful, convenient, highly efficient, environmentally friendly (emits no greenhouse gases), doesn't require the use of any foreign oil, is compatible with our present infrastructure, and most importantly, is universal in usage and application as oil has been in the past. It appears to be far more superior to the alternative Band-Aid energy solutions presently being promoted and funded by the US DOE such as fuel cells, gasohol, hybrids, ethanol, methanol, bio-diesel, and definitely biomass such as wood chips, stalks and switch grass. This technology can use any type of oil extracted and/or produced including fossil. seed, grain, vegetable and a host of others, all in an unrefined state as the oil only acts as a carrier of this small air bubble. The technological process simply combust (Burn) this small air bubble that is entrained in the oil. The process does not burn the oil (Fluid) itself.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps Washington would do something if many people called their Congressman and asked the reason why this technology is not being pursued. It is possible with this technology to drive across country for less than $10.00 and emit no greenhouse gases.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a new energy technology that doesn&#8217;t need or use ethanol, therefore, no need to worry about ethanol pros or cons.</p>
<p>This new energy technology has been proven by NASA but the DOE refuses to fund or conduct further research. It is called Cavitation Ignition Bubble Combustion (CIBC) or burning a small air bubble less than the size of a &#8220;BB.&#8221;</p>
<p>This new innovative energy technology is cheap, plentiful, convenient, highly efficient, environmentally friendly (emits no greenhouse gases), doesn&#8217;t require the use of any foreign oil, is compatible with our present infrastructure, and most importantly, is universal in usage and application as oil has been in the past. It appears to be far more superior to the alternative Band-Aid energy solutions presently being promoted and funded by the US DOE such as fuel cells, gasohol, hybrids, ethanol, methanol, bio-diesel, and definitely biomass such as wood chips, stalks and switch grass. This technology can use any type of oil extracted and/or produced including fossil. seed, grain, vegetable and a host of others, all in an unrefined state as the oil only acts as a carrier of this small air bubble. The technological process simply combust (Burn) this small air bubble that is entrained in the oil. The process does not burn the oil (Fluid) itself.</p>
<p>Perhaps Washington would do something if many people called their Congressman and asked the reason why this technology is not being pursued. It is possible with this technology to drive across country for less than $10.00 and emit no greenhouse gases.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethanol&#8217;s Corrosive Little Secret by laramaral</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/07/ethanols-corrosive-little-secret/#comment-23</link>
		<author>laramaral</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/07/ethanols-corrosive-little-secret/#comment-23</guid>
		<description>There are a lot of ways to look at the energy usage issues with ethanol, but very few of the experts nay saying the viability ethanol as a petroleum alternative seem to have much awareness of other alternative energy sources. Tying ethanol plants in to wind power grids and using solar collectors to generate heat for the distillation processes could create a large input of now untapped energy. At this point in time, corn derived ethanol may not be as energy efficient as we want it to be, but if you look at other infrastructures such as Brazil's sugar cane based ethanol economy, you can see the direction we can head in if we apply the best available bio-tech and engineering to the problem of energy efficiency.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of ways to look at the energy usage issues with ethanol, but very few of the experts nay saying the viability ethanol as a petroleum alternative seem to have much awareness of other alternative energy sources. Tying ethanol plants in to wind power grids and using solar collectors to generate heat for the distillation processes could create a large input of now untapped energy. At this point in time, corn derived ethanol may not be as energy efficient as we want it to be, but if you look at other infrastructures such as Brazil&#8217;s sugar cane based ethanol economy, you can see the direction we can head in if we apply the best available bio-tech and engineering to the problem of energy efficiency.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Who sponsors this site? by Fire</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/who_sponsors_this_site/#comment-9</link>
		<author>Fire</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/who_sponsors_this_site/#comment-9</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;The oil industry is not overly concerned or even slightly worried about ethanol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All the negatives about ethanol are pure chemical and scientific fact.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The corrosive properties, reduced mileage and horsepower, are not concocted by opponents; merely experienced by users.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The main drawback lies in the agricultural and economic feasibility of ethanol production.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The U.S. cannot produce enough corn to maintain an adequate food AND fuel source. No conspiracy here folks; just simple economics.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The oil industry is not overly concerned or even slightly worried about ethanol.</p>
<p>All the negatives about ethanol are pure chemical and scientific fact.</p>
<p>The corrosive properties, reduced mileage and horsepower, are not concocted by opponents; merely experienced by users.</p>
<p>The main drawback lies in the agricultural and economic feasibility of ethanol production.</p>
<p>The U.S. cannot produce enough corn to maintain an adequate food AND fuel source. No conspiracy here folks; just simple economics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s it do to cars then? by Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/whats-it-do-to-cars-then/#comment-17</link>
		<author>Fred</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/whats-it-do-to-cars-then/#comment-17</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Much agreement with posts prior to mine about both the petroleum industry's revolting attempts to prevent the use of anything but fossil fuels. Even if the stuff about the corrosiveness of ethanol is true, you simply cannot abandon plans for its use when it stands the chance of helping so many of this country's ills.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whether it's an alternative to ethanol or something used in addition to it, biodiesel simply has to be given consideration. The mileage an engine gets on it is just marginally lower than regular diesel fuel. And let's remember that the processed deep fryer oil that it uses would simply be thrown out otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is a show on Discovery Channel called "Dirty Work" and in one installment, you see how one man processes the fryer oil in his garage (albeit one with a high ceiling) for a diesel pick-up he's owned since the early 1980s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you can, catch it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let's be clear -- hydrogen for cars, despite what Dubya says, is not the answer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much agreement with posts prior to mine about both the petroleum industry&#8217;s revolting attempts to prevent the use of anything but fossil fuels. Even if the stuff about the corrosiveness of ethanol is true, you simply cannot abandon plans for its use when it stands the chance of helping so many of this country&#8217;s ills.</p>
<p>Whether it&#8217;s an alternative to ethanol or something used in addition to it, biodiesel simply has to be given consideration. The mileage an engine gets on it is just marginally lower than regular diesel fuel. And let&#8217;s remember that the processed deep fryer oil that it uses would simply be thrown out otherwise.</p>
<p>There is a show on Discovery Channel called &#8220;Dirty Work&#8221; and in one installment, you see how one man processes the fryer oil in his garage (albeit one with a high ceiling) for a diesel pick-up he&#8217;s owned since the early 1980s.</p>
<p>If you can, catch it.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be clear &#8212; hydrogen for cars, despite what Dubya says, is not the answer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s it do to cars then? by angel</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/whats-it-do-to-cars-then/#comment-16</link>
		<author>angel</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/whats-it-do-to-cars-then/#comment-16</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;All cars running on ethanol should address 2 problems not present when running on gasoline. These are corrosion and cold starting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Corrosion is addressed by plating or coating fuel tanks, pumps, carburators or injectors and using special plastic and rubber fuel lines.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cold starting is usually achieved by staring with gasoline and then switching to ethanol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mixtures of gasoline and ethanol will proportionally suffer from above problems.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have indeed personal experience on ethanol. My car is a Passat 87 (Dasher) originally designed to run on ethanol. It has 110,000 miles and runs fine. I start it with temps. as low as 45 F on gasoline. (It has a small 2 liter plastic gasoline tank). Corrosion problems are mainly a not too well applied nickel coating in the carburettor, which is peeling off slowly. Ethanol fuel tank coating is fine.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Currently I buy ethanol fuel (93% ethanol + 7% water) for 60 to 65 cents a liter&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All cars running on ethanol should address 2 problems not present when running on gasoline. These are corrosion and cold starting.</p>
<p>Corrosion is addressed by plating or coating fuel tanks, pumps, carburators or injectors and using special plastic and rubber fuel lines.</p>
<p>Cold starting is usually achieved by staring with gasoline and then switching to ethanol.</p>
<p>Mixtures of gasoline and ethanol will proportionally suffer from above problems.</p>
<p>I have indeed personal experience on ethanol. My car is a Passat 87 (Dasher) originally designed to run on ethanol. It has 110,000 miles and runs fine. I start it with temps. as low as 45 F on gasoline. (It has a small 2 liter plastic gasoline tank). Corrosion problems are mainly a not too well applied nickel coating in the carburettor, which is peeling off slowly. Ethanol fuel tank coating is fine.</p>
<p>Currently I buy ethanol fuel (93% ethanol + 7% water) for 60 to 65 cents a liter</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethanol - Pipeline - biomase ? by bob</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/ethanol-pipeline-biomase/#comment-19</link>
		<author>bob</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/ethanol-pipeline-biomase/#comment-19</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I purchased a bio-diesel plant from freedom-fuels (www.freedomfuels.net) for $4000. Now I pay roughly 15 cents a gallon on diesel fuel. My F-250 and F-450 cost nearly eighteen thousand dollars a year to fuel; now I pay about eight hundred dollars a year on methanol which is added to the used cooking oil. I am not sure of the legality of this fuel due to no road tax. I was told by a lawyer it is perfectly legal since it is homemade and there is no act of sale, but who can trust lawyers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Despite popular beliefs, bio-diesel releases less harmful toxins than gasoline. If you didn't know, bio-diesel is made from used cooking oil. I pick it up for free from waste treatment companies. Restaurants pay to have the oil disposed of. In theory I could make money and fuel at the same time. I do not see why this hasn't caught on. I get 4 mpg greater than before. The only downside is that the truck smells like french fries going down the road, but then again diesel fumes aren't any better.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased a bio-diesel plant from freedom-fuels (www.freedomfuels.net) for $4000. Now I pay roughly 15 cents a gallon on diesel fuel. My F-250 and F-450 cost nearly eighteen thousand dollars a year to fuel; now I pay about eight hundred dollars a year on methanol which is added to the used cooking oil. I am not sure of the legality of this fuel due to no road tax. I was told by a lawyer it is perfectly legal since it is homemade and there is no act of sale, but who can trust lawyers.</p>
<p>Despite popular beliefs, bio-diesel releases less harmful toxins than gasoline. If you didn&#8217;t know, bio-diesel is made from used cooking oil. I pick it up for free from waste treatment companies. Restaurants pay to have the oil disposed of. In theory I could make money and fuel at the same time. I do not see why this hasn&#8217;t caught on. I get 4 mpg greater than before. The only downside is that the truck smells like french fries going down the road, but then again diesel fumes aren&#8217;t any better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ethanol - Pipeline - biomase ? by dls</title>
		<link>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/ethanol-pipeline-biomase/#comment-18</link>
		<author>dls</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ethanol-news.com/blog/2006/07/08/ethanol-pipeline-biomase/#comment-18</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you are talking waste oil from a large industrial cooking facility the cost is free... People are converting this to BioDiesel now @ $.30 gallon total cost. Engines that can run on straight cooking oil are not available to the public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If present economics are the only factor we should stick with petroleum. It is presently the cheapest resource. The real issue is if one gets a new motor-fuel like Ethanol online will economies of scale and improved methods of production eventually make it cheaper than petroleum?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The world is full of oil. But much of it is in remote areas with rough terrain (such as Nevada, Alaska, etc.) not serviced by present infrastructure. The cost to produce from these areas will be higher than foreign oil.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also- Ethanol can be made by Pan-American farmers. It is renewable. It can be transported over land by train. An ethanol tanker spill would evaporate on land, dissipate at sea. Much of South American land can grow corn at low cost.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are talking waste oil from a large industrial cooking facility the cost is free&#8230; People are converting this to BioDiesel now @ $.30 gallon total cost. Engines that can run on straight cooking oil are not available to the public.</p>
<p>If present economics are the only factor we should stick with petroleum. It is presently the cheapest resource. The real issue is if one gets a new motor-fuel like Ethanol online will economies of scale and improved methods of production eventually make it cheaper than petroleum?</p>
<p>The world is full of oil. But much of it is in remote areas with rough terrain (such as Nevada, Alaska, etc.) not serviced by present infrastructure. The cost to produce from these areas will be higher than foreign oil.</p>
<p>Also- Ethanol can be made by Pan-American farmers. It is renewable. It can be transported over land by train. An ethanol tanker spill would evaporate on land, dissipate at sea. Much of South American land can grow corn at low cost.</p>
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